johnwest99 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 2007 i spent €15000 approx on a FUT transplant in dublin. personally i never saw an improvement and here is how my head looks today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Blake Bloxham Posted September 14, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted September 14, 2014 John, What's your plan from here on out? Are you interested in more surgery? Taking any preventive medications? Let me know if you have any questions. Good luck! "Doc" Blake Bloxham - formerly "Future_HT_Doc" Forum Co-Moderator and Editorial Assistant for the Hair Transplant Network, the Hair Loss Learning Center, the Hair Loss Q&A Blog, and the Hair Restoration Forum All opinions are my own and my advice does not constitute as medical advice. All medical questions and concerns should be addressed by a personal physician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwest99 Posted September 14, 2014 Author Share Posted September 14, 2014 Doc, i had a FUT preocedure and had 1300 grafts approx. 7 years later all my native hair in the area that was transplanted is gone. IMHO very little improvement. did this procedure fail or is this what 1300 grafts looks like? if i had more clarity i would consider more surgery. but as things stand it seems futile to transplant again no preventative meds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member 1978matt Posted September 14, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted September 14, 2014 For 1300 grafts, yes it does look like they all grew. I presume they were just spread across your head rather than targeted in one specific area. I think you need a further 3000-4000 to cover the front half of your head in order to make a really significant change. HRBR charge celebrity prices so I wouldn't even bother going back there. 4,312 FUT grafts (7,676 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - August 2013 1,145 FUE grafts (3,152 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - August 2018 763 FUE grafts (2,094 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - January 2020 Proscar 1.25mg every 3rd day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Blake Bloxham Posted September 14, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted September 14, 2014 John, It is difficult, in my opinion, to state whether the procedure "failed" or whether your shed a significant amount of native hair. Do you have any pictures before the procedure? How about at the 12 month post-op point? These may help shed some light. Also, are you interested in preventive meds? "Doc" Blake Bloxham - formerly "Future_HT_Doc" Forum Co-Moderator and Editorial Assistant for the Hair Transplant Network, the Hair Loss Learning Center, the Hair Loss Q&A Blog, and the Hair Restoration Forum All opinions are my own and my advice does not constitute as medical advice. All medical questions and concerns should be addressed by a personal physician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwest99 Posted September 14, 2014 Author Share Posted September 14, 2014 i have taken propecia for a year and i continued to lose hair so i stopped that. rograine was effective at stopping the rot but i stopped using that after a number of years, it made my scalp sore. i have shed a ton of native hair since then. i have pictures somewhere i will look for them. thank u both for your replies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member StaggerLee123 Posted September 14, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted September 14, 2014 Yes 1300 grafts is not going to make much of a difference, sorry you were led to believe otherwise. Who was your surgeon? Was it Dr. Katonah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUSA Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 1300 grafts wudnt even scratch the surface of ur hairless so yea it does look like 1300 grafts. have to agree with 1978matt u need about 4000 grafts and probably more to change ur appearance. u paid 15000 euro for 1300 grafts? thats disturbing. borderline robbery. what kinda HT doctor wud recommend 1/3rd of what u need? a shady one thats who. lotta shady doctors out there and unfortunately u picked one them. sorry to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Spanker Posted September 15, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted September 15, 2014 Do you have a photo of what you're hair looked like pre op? It's kinda hard to determine that your transplant was a complete failure if we are just looking at post ops 7 years after a procedure and not being meds. I am an online representative for Dr. Raymond Konior who is an elite member of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians. View Dr. Konior's Website View Spanker's Website I am not a medical professional and my opinions should not be taken as medical advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member london81 Posted September 15, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted September 15, 2014 Woah! 1500 euros for 1300 grafts! That's crazy expensive! Go to Europe if you want more surgery, top docs and ALOT cheaper! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwest99 Posted September 16, 2014 Author Share Posted September 16, 2014 the hair loss surgeon is the most well known in ireland. he has been a guest on national television shows. i was told that i would receive 'gold standard treatment'. No it was not Dr. Katonah on the day of the procedure after the strip was removed the surgeon said this will be the 1st of several procedures you will have in your lifetime. Up till that moment i thought this was the only procedure i would ever require. well now that i have a better idea that 1300 is just a fraction of what i need i am considering another procedure. at the minute i am reviewing Dr Saifi and his clinic in Poland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUSA Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 why do u continue to search for doctors outside the recommended network of doctors. didn't u learn ur lesson the first go around.... just cause a doctor is well know in a particular area doesn't mean he is a top rated doctor around the world and one u shud consider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwest99 Posted September 16, 2014 Author Share Posted September 16, 2014 indeed the reason why i am posting is to avoid any more screw ups. so, where can i find the recommended network of doctors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUSA Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Hair Transplant Network - Find Hair Transplant Clinics and Doctors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwest99 Posted September 16, 2014 Author Share Posted September 16, 2014 thank you, i will investigate these Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member glocktop Posted September 17, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted September 17, 2014 The same amount of money invested now with a reputable surgeon would give you 4000 grafts FUE or more, or 5000 grafts FUT with funds left over, and dramatically better results. The good news is, depending upon how the extraction went in your first surgery, you could have a lot of good donor grafts left for any of the above ops. How is your scar from op 1? NW5a, fin/foam/couvre 3801 grafts FUE, Dr Jose Lorenzo - Madrid, November 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Garageland Posted September 17, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted September 17, 2014 I agree with the rest of the comments that 1300 grafts over that area will result in something that you have. Was there a reason why only 1300 were used was it because that is all he could take or was price a reason? 15,000 Euros is crazy. We have a lot of patients from Ireland and as a result I will be heading over to Dublin hopefully at the end of November to follow up with some of them. Happy to see you to offer my advice on what can be done next for you. --- Former patient and representative for Hasson & Wong. Dr. Victor Hasson and Dr. Jerry Wong are esteemed members of the Coalition of Independent Hair Restoration Physicians. My opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Hasson & Wong. My Hair Loss Website - Hair Transplant with Dr. Hasson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member bismarck Posted October 17, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted October 17, 2014 Something doesn't seem right about the numbers, is there an extra 0 or is a 0 missing somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwest99 Posted October 17, 2014 Author Share Posted October 17, 2014 regretfully the numbers are accurate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwest99 Posted October 17, 2014 Author Share Posted October 17, 2014 Question: How much does a hair transplant cost? Short Answer: On average between €10,000 and €20,000. How Much Does a Hair Transplant Cost? | Hair Transplant Clinic Ireland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member johnwalters Posted October 18, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted October 18, 2014 did you mean 1,500euros or 15,000euros?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member london81 Posted October 19, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted October 19, 2014 I think he means 15,000 euros! 1,500 euros would be VERY cheap for 7 years hair restoration! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member bismarck Posted October 24, 2014 Senior Member Share Posted October 24, 2014 15k euros is very expensive for 1300 grafts. That's more than 11 euro per graft. And that's without travel/lodging/lost work time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member mitchellthesuper Posted October 24, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted October 24, 2014 seriously, you paid a lot of money. why dont you check turkish clinics for FUE? you may get it done at 1/10 of the price you paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member justanotherguy Posted October 28, 2014 Regular Member Share Posted October 28, 2014 dude, i am sorry to hear your story. there have been a lot of advancements in the recent years. i am sure you will find very good doctors for reasonable prices in Europe. Watch this to have some fun Funniest Hair Transplant Commercial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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