random512 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 How soon do you start using Nizoral after a ht? Nizoral is known as a harsh shampoo and I want to be as careful as possible with my scalp and hair. Has anyone else here considered shelving the Nizoral for some period of time after a HT? I do have to consider the health and upkeep of my existing hair and Nizoral is an important part of that strategy. So maybe waiting 3 or 6 months would be the sweet spot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
random512 Posted January 9, 2017 Author Share Posted January 9, 2017 @HLS2015- thanks for the feedback. So what special shampoos or topical applications do you use after a ht to maintain your existing hair without risking damage to your new hair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hsrp10 Posted January 9, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted January 9, 2017 Be very careful of Nizoral use post HT, unless you need to control a scalp issue and then only use it sparingly 1-2 week after you are already a few months post-op. Try to use gentler shampoos without harsh ingredients. go dense or go home Unbiased advice and opinions based on 25 plus years of researching and actual experience with hair loss, hair restoration via both FUT & FUE, SMP, scalp issues including scalp eczema & seborrheic dermatitis and many others HSRP10's favorite FUT surgeons: *Dr. Konior, *Dr Hasson, Dr. Rahal HSRP10's favorite FUE surgeons: *Dr. Konior, *Dr. Bisanga, Dr. Erdogan, Dr. Couto (*indicates actual experience with doctor) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member KO Posted January 10, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted January 10, 2017 It's surprising to hear that Nizoral is a harsh shampoo. I found the 1% harsh and irritating, but the red 2% feels pretty good to me. 3382 FUE Lupanzula http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/185463-3382-grafts-lupanzula.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hsrp10 Posted January 10, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted January 10, 2017 It's surprising to hear that Nizoral is a harsh shampoo. I found the 1% harsh and irritating, but the red 2% feels pretty good to me. Yeah initially 2% felt great to me too, made my hair look great too until I started to lose my nicely transplanted results from Dr. Hasson.. http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/173206-dont-overuse-nizoral-after-hair-transplant.html Here is also advice from Spex. http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/135193-nizoral-shedding.html Gotta be careful about the 2% in particular. go dense or go home Unbiased advice and opinions based on 25 plus years of researching and actual experience with hair loss, hair restoration via both FUT & FUE, SMP, scalp issues including scalp eczema & seborrheic dermatitis and many others HSRP10's favorite FUT surgeons: *Dr. Konior, *Dr Hasson, Dr. Rahal HSRP10's favorite FUE surgeons: *Dr. Konior, *Dr. Bisanga, Dr. Erdogan, Dr. Couto (*indicates actual experience with doctor) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Harbal Posted January 10, 2017 Regular Member Share Posted January 10, 2017 Nizoral after HT: https://www.realself.com/question/nizoral-after-transplant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hsrp10 Posted January 10, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted January 10, 2017 HLS2015 knows his stuff, would have to agree with that statement. 🆒 go dense or go home Unbiased advice and opinions based on 25 plus years of researching and actual experience with hair loss, hair restoration via both FUT & FUE, SMP, scalp issues including scalp eczema & seborrheic dermatitis and many others HSRP10's favorite FUT surgeons: *Dr. Konior, *Dr Hasson, Dr. Rahal HSRP10's favorite FUE surgeons: *Dr. Konior, *Dr. Bisanga, Dr. Erdogan, Dr. Couto (*indicates actual experience with doctor) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member KO Posted January 10, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted January 10, 2017 Yeah initially 2% felt great to me too, made my hair look great too until I started to lose my nicely transplanted results from Dr. Hasson..http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/173206-dont-overuse-nizoral-after-hair-transplant.html Here is also advice from Spex. http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/135193-nizoral-shedding.html Gotta be careful about the 2% in particular. Interesting, would have never guessed this till seeing these threads. 3382 FUE Lupanzula http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/185463-3382-grafts-lupanzula.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hsrp10 Posted January 10, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted January 10, 2017 I would be careful KO, you don't want to end up like me and having to get another HT to replace any damage from Niz 2%. In the end it all worked out for me but it was a long journey... lol go dense or go home Unbiased advice and opinions based on 25 plus years of researching and actual experience with hair loss, hair restoration via both FUT & FUE, SMP, scalp issues including scalp eczema & seborrheic dermatitis and many others HSRP10's favorite FUT surgeons: *Dr. Konior, *Dr Hasson, Dr. Rahal HSRP10's favorite FUE surgeons: *Dr. Konior, *Dr. Bisanga, Dr. Erdogan, Dr. Couto (*indicates actual experience with doctor) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member hsrp10 Posted January 11, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted January 11, 2017 Yeah, some of it did grow back but not all of it unfortunately. The thing is it dries out the sebaceous glands and these are already fragile after being newly transplanted. I've read it before and some guys here also had to have HTs because of Niz damage. Another guy bonkerstomper: Well i used it because i heard everyone harping on about the big 3. At first my hair felt good and dry for 2 weeks then it mostly fell out and never grew back so i had to get a ht. Simple!! http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/160188-nizoral-1%25-2%25.html Also I was using it like 4-5x week due to my scalp condition and due to the point KO mentioned, that initially it seems like it's not so harsh. It also can make you hair look great which is the real pitfall. I can still remember simply touching my hair a few backs back after work and hairs would just slump off and fall out. go dense or go home Unbiased advice and opinions based on 25 plus years of researching and actual experience with hair loss, hair restoration via both FUT & FUE, SMP, scalp issues including scalp eczema & seborrheic dermatitis and many others HSRP10's favorite FUT surgeons: *Dr. Konior, *Dr Hasson, Dr. Rahal HSRP10's favorite FUE surgeons: *Dr. Konior, *Dr. Bisanga, Dr. Erdogan, Dr. Couto (*indicates actual experience with doctor) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Ernie Posted January 11, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted January 11, 2017 I use the 1% once or twice per week (closer to once per week). Started using it at about 8-9 months postop because that's when I learned about it, lol 3185 FUT with Dr. Rahal on 2/17/16 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/182611-fut-3185-dr-rahal-day-after-pics.html 1204 FUT with Dr. Rahal on 3/27/17 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/186586-round-2-rahal-1204-fut-frontal-third-same-area.html ---> total of 4389 grafts to my frontal third via FUT ---> 1mg finasteride daily since 1999 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Ernie Posted January 12, 2017 Senior Member Share Posted January 12, 2017 Not at all, but I knew ahead of time to be careful. I overused head and shoulders though, and I had a temporary shed. Now I'm careful with all shampoos, and do a search on this forum before use 3185 FUT with Dr. Rahal on 2/17/16 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/182611-fut-3185-dr-rahal-day-after-pics.html 1204 FUT with Dr. Rahal on 3/27/17 http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/186586-round-2-rahal-1204-fut-frontal-third-same-area.html ---> total of 4389 grafts to my frontal third via FUT ---> 1mg finasteride daily since 1999 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member richter101 Posted January 20, 2017 Regular Member Share Posted January 20, 2017 I think the question is more so how long/ often to wash your after a transplant anyways? In general, I've washed my hair way less since being conscious of my MPB. And if I recall, I waited a week just to gently wash my hair after I had my transplant. But consult a few Docs to be sure! Richter101 is a former patient of Dr. Parsa Mohebi Born Oct ’89 Began Seeing Gradual Hair Loss Oct ’09 Began Seeing Gradual Hair Gain June ’15 My regimen includes: HT #1 2200 (ARTAS- FUE) grafts at Parsa Mohebi Hair Restoration in Los Angeles in 2016 Finasteride daily, since 2014 Rogaine experimenter from 2012- ’13 RIP Planning HT #2 By End of This Year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drew6000 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 On 1/9/2017 at 10:14 PM, KO said: It's surprising to hear that Nizoral is a harsh shampoo. I found the 1% harsh and irritating, but the red 2% feels pretty good to me. To my understanding, the 1% version has 1% of ketoconazole and the 2% has 2%. How would the 2 % which has double the amount of ketoconazole be less harsh than the 1%? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drew6000 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 On 1/9/2017 at 10:30 PM, hsrp10 said: Yeah initially 2% felt great to me too, made my hair look great too until I started to lose my nicely transplanted results from Dr. Hasson.. http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/173206-dont-overuse-nizoral-after-hair-transplant.html Here is also advice from Spex. http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/135193-nizoral-shedding.html Gotta be careful about the 2% in particular. Hi hsrp10, where is this post from Spex you are referring to? The link you posted takes me right back to this thread and I can't find any posting from Spex. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raphael84 Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 @Ashforce Interesting read! Patient Advisor for Dr. Bisanga - BHR Clinic ian@bhrclinic.com - BHR Results - https://www.instagram.com/bhr.onlyresults/ I am not a medical professional and my words should not be taken as medical advice. All opinions and views shared are my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Ashforce Posted May 5, 2019 Regular Member Share Posted May 5, 2019 thanks Ian. this is useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member civic Posted July 16, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted July 16, 2022 Any update on this topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member NARMAK Posted July 17, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted July 17, 2022 12 hours ago, civic said: Any update on this topic? I'd be interested too as no offence to the original replies but it seems wholly and utterly bizarre to me that a topical shampoo that barely pierces the dermis can reach as deep as a hair follicle where its implanted to do the type of damage permanently claimed in the replies. There's temporary damage for sure that can happen, but permanently to healthy follicles? You'd have to really have been doing something wrong There's clinical studies that have affirmed the mild Anti-Androgen effects of 2% Ketoconazole and making hair from the more resistant DHT donor area be lost permanently doesn't sound logical or normal for the 95% or more of men. 2 Follow my first Hair Transplant Journey! Eugenix Hair Sciences | Dr Priyadarshini Das | Full Temple Point Restoration + Hairline | 2010 Grafts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Joocee Posted August 10, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted August 10, 2022 (edited) Does anybody else have any experiences to add, positive or negative, with nizoral use? I've been advised to use it (after a certain time frame) after having a transplant as had some seborrheic dermatitis/buildup on my scalp. Edited August 10, 2022 by Joocee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member consequence Posted July 5, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted July 5, 2023 I wish there was actual peer reviewed literature on this subject. Most surgeons guess 2-4 weeks. One thing I noticed is that when I had a bit of itching at my donor. When I started back up on keto 2% it went down about 80-90%, I believe because of its anti-inflammatory effect. With the scalp being literally like a petri dish after surgery, I wonder if it killed some bug that had taken up residence. Building a casa de papel with Dr. Couto: my 1700 FUE in Madrid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member MildSeven Posted July 11, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted July 11, 2023 On 7/5/2023 at 3:35 PM, consequence said: I wish there was actual peer reviewed literature on this subject. Most surgeons guess 2-4 weeks. One thing I noticed is that when I had a bit of itching at my donor. When I started back up on keto 2% it went down about 80-90%, I believe because of its anti-inflammatory effect. With the scalp being literally like a petri dish after surgery, I wonder if it killed some bug that had taken up residence. Yes bro i used it on my 22th Day and 28th day post OP those days were very itchy on my scap, transplanted and surrounding area... it really helped to relieve my itchiness My Hair Transplant Journey Eugenix | Dr. Vinita | 2730 grafts | 6th - 7th June 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Sunset Dune Posted July 26, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted July 26, 2023 On 1/9/2017 at 9:30 PM, hsrp10 said: Yeah initially 2% felt great to me too, made my hair look great too until I started to lose my nicely transplanted results from Dr. Hasson.. http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/173206-dont-overuse-nizoral-after-hair-transplant.html Here is also advice from Spex. http://www.hairrestorationnetwork.com/eve/135193-nizoral-shedding.html Gotta be careful about the 2% in particular. I know this thread is over half a decade old but could someone please elaborate on how this users hair transplant was “damaged” after using Keto shampoo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member StillAlive Posted July 26, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted July 26, 2023 I don't believe that there is any hard, documented evidence. Personally, I am not using it until 12 months post-op, just to be on the paranoid-safe side of things, but you may hear from others who used it without any issues as early as the 2nd month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member ocean Posted September 12, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted September 12, 2023 Anyone else can chime in regarding there experiences of using nizoral post ht,at what month did you start using it and how many times per week and did it effect the end result? Im currently 6 months post op, before my ht I always used Nizoral 2% once a week for many years (in combination with Avodart amd regaine) just wondering if it’s ok to start now 6 months in without causing any damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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