Senior Member miko Posted November 28, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted November 28, 2020 In general it is a problem to find results of leading european clinics and doctors (mainly from Spain: Lorenzo, Couto, DeFreitas) posted by patients. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Curious25 Posted November 28, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted November 28, 2020 Very well put Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member jimmyT Posted November 29, 2020 Regular Member Share Posted November 29, 2020 On 10/27/2020 at 12:00 AM, RMancini said: I'll do it soon guys! please do, looking forward to hearing patient review !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member miko Posted November 29, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted November 29, 2020 Yes please. I want to kindly ask you too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member miko Posted November 29, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) https://www.instagram.com/p/CFRQvC5Aeop/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link This guy on the picture (right) was also on HT at Fuexpert clinic and Dr. Couto... This is his story published by Dr. Couto on his instagram: https://www.instagram.com/p/CG-Jwpzj9zc/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link Edited November 29, 2020 by miko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member JohnBob Posted December 8, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted December 8, 2020 (edited) On 11/28/2020 at 1:19 PM, miko said: In general it is a problem to find results of leading european clinics and doctors (mainly from Spain: Lorenzo, Couto, DeFreitas) posted by patients. There are tons of De Freitas results posted by his patients in the spanish forum recuperaelpelo.com - tons of them. And the best results posted are TRULY amazing. Check this one out: NW 4 (A): DR. FREITAS - 3223 GRAFTS (OCT / 17) + 2070 GRAFTS (ABR / 19) = 5293 GRAFTS https://foro.recuperarelpelo.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=70521 Not too long ago HT were synonymous of pluggy doll hair. Now dudes are show boating freaking johnny bravo hairstyles with a confidence lol, way to go Edited December 8, 2020 by JohnBob 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member JohnBob Posted December 8, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted December 8, 2020 (edited) Another one from freitas. The transformations that amazes me the most are the ones that happens over previously slick bald areas. FREITAS NW5A 3019(2016) +2435(2017) +900 +200BHT(2019)6554GRAFT https://foro.recuperarelpelo.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=65210 Edited December 8, 2020 by JohnBob 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member miko Posted December 8, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted December 8, 2020 Thank you. Really very good result. Recuperelpelo is a little bit complicated to search, not so simple as HRN. Do you have also some result from Dr. Couto? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member JohnBob Posted December 8, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted December 8, 2020 13 minutes ago, miko said: Thank you. Really very good result. Recuperelpelo is a little bit complicated to search, not so simple as HRN. Do you have also some result from Dr. Couto? Couldn't find many in the spanish forum either. This is what I've found: 2k graft reparation of a previous transplant done in Turkey by the patient. https://foro.recuperarelpelo.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=84771 Look how clean the procedure it looks right after it's done. Very similar do Konior's. Another ones from Couto's patients https://foro.recuperarelpelo.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=82358&start=420 https://foro.recuperarelpelo.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=84205 https://foro.recuperarelpelo.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=60731&start=225 https://foro.recuperarelpelo.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=79795 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member OliverAtom Posted December 24, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted December 24, 2020 On 11/26/2020 at 8:05 PM, BjornBorg said: Very good post @OliverAtom. We can't divide our research into clinic posted=bad and patient posted=good. It doesn't work like that. You need to use your eyes and be honest to yourself about what you're seeing. If you're watching a clinic posted youtube vid where they are combing through the hair and doing so in natural or harsh lighting then what you see is the truth, although be it a top case that they want to show off. It's still a real result. Likewise if you see a patient on here post a blurry pic in flattering light that makes a hairline look dense then what you see is probably a lie. That´s it BjornBorg! I couldnt have explained it better than you just did 😀 As you say: We can't divide our research into clinic posted=bad and patient posted=good. It doesn't work like that. You need to use your eyes and be honest to yourself about what you're seeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member OliverAtom Posted December 24, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted December 24, 2020 On 12/8/2020 at 3:48 AM, JohnBob said: There are tons of De Freitas results posted by his patients in the spanish forum recuperaelpelo.com - tons of them. And the best results posted are TRULY amazing. Check this one out: NW 4 (A): DR. FREITAS - 3223 GRAFTS (OCT / 17) + 2070 GRAFTS (ABR / 19) = 5293 GRAFTS https://foro.recuperarelpelo.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=70521 Not too long ago HT were synonymous of pluggy doll hair. Now dudes are show boating freaking johnny bravo hairstyles with a confidence lol, way to go Freitas is a magician!!! Oh MY God, what a result 😍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member OliverAtom Posted December 24, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted December 24, 2020 On 11/26/2020 at 4:58 AM, Melvin-Moderator said: Unfortunately, most clinics don’t know or have the time to consistently upload videos. It really takes a team, I upload myself to our channel, and with all of my other responsibilities, I could see how some clinics don’t have the time. That said, I think every quality clinic should be uploading weekly. Totally agree with you Melvin. It takes a lot more effort and time to create VIDEO content. It´s a lot easier to take 20-30 photos and then upload them in a few clicks to the clinic website or to a Forum than investing the time and money on creating 3-5 minutes videos which in most cases the clinic might also have to outsource having an extra cost of around $1800-2500/month ... But, what is this for a clinic that operates on 8-12 patients every month. Some clinics can even charge $25000/2000 grafts for just one patient ... Certainly is not about the money. Therefore, videos are the BEST way Doctors can show the world their PASSION for their work, their Art... Videos also help to build trust among users, they connect a lot better and they are a lot more transparent and honest than photos... Video content is PRICELESS nowadays. Not even close to see a few photos compared with a before-after VIDEO... A clear example of the impact and trasparency of a video is this tutorial you share with our community... would it be the same if this videos were just presented with a few photos and some written text? Absolutely NOT!!! Quarantine Self-Fade Tutorial How You Should Approach A Failed Hair Transplant? Dr. Bisanga Answers Therefore, I also agree with you that Top clinics should be uploading their patient results weekly if not monthly. Hopefully in the coming New Year, clinics start showing their passion for their work through video content. I´m sure all of us would love to see that, right? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted December 24, 2020 Administrators Share Posted December 24, 2020 48 minutes ago, OliverAtom said: Totally agree with you Melvin. It takes a lot more effort and time to create VIDEO content. It´s a lot easier to take 20-30 photos and then upload them in a few clicks to the clinic website or to a Forum than investing the time and money on creating 3-5 minutes videos which in most cases the clinic might also have to outsource having an extra cost of around $1800-2500/month ... But, what is this for a clinic that operates on 8-12 patients every month. Some clinics can even charge $25000/2000 grafts for just one patient ... Certainly is not about the money. Therefore, videos are the BEST way Doctors can show the world their PASSION for their work, their Art... Videos also help to build trust among users, they connect a lot better and they are a lot more transparent and honest than photos... Video content is PRICELESS nowadays. Not even close to see a few photos compared with a before-after VIDEO... A clear example of the impact and trasparency of a video is this tutorial you share with our community... would it be the same if this videos were just presented with a few photos and some written text? Absolutely NOT!!! Quarantine Self-Fade Tutorial How You Should Approach A Failed Hair Transplant? Dr. Bisanga Answers Therefore, I also agree with you that Top clinics should be uploading their patient results weekly if not monthly. Hopefully in the coming New Year, clinics start showing their passion for their work through video content. I´m sure all of us would love to see that, right? I’m in the process of creating a guide for our recommended surgeons. How they should upload and present videos. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Zinedine Posted December 28, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted December 28, 2020 On 12/8/2020 at 3:48 AM, JohnBob said: There are tons of De Freitas results posted by his patients in the spanish forum recuperaelpelo.com - tons of them. And the best results posted are TRULY amazing. Check this one out: NW 4 (A): DR. FREITAS - 3223 GRAFTS (OCT / 17) + 2070 GRAFTS (ABR / 19) = 5293 GRAFTS https://foro.recuperarelpelo.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=70521 Not too long ago HT were synonymous of pluggy doll hair. Now dudes are show boating freaking johnny bravo hairstyles with a confidence lol, way to go One of the BEST results I have ever seen on the Internet. Period. This is what everyone of us dream when we are thinking about a successful hair transplant. Hopefully I will get a result like this when my time comes in a few years... Freitas for sure is already on my list of amazing surgeons! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Zinedine Posted December 28, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted December 28, 2020 On 12/24/2020 at 2:08 AM, OliverAtom said: Totally agree with you Melvin. It takes a lot more effort and time to create VIDEO content. It´s a lot easier to take 20-30 photos and then upload them in a few clicks to the clinic website or to a Forum than investing the time and money on creating 3-5 minutes videos which in most cases the clinic might also have to outsource having an extra cost of around $1800-2500/month ... But, what is this for a clinic that operates on 8-12 patients every month. Some clinics can even charge $25000/2000 grafts for just one patient ... Certainly is not about the money. Therefore, videos are the BEST way Doctors can show the world their PASSION for their work, their Art... Videos also help to build trust among users, they connect a lot better and they are a lot more transparent and honest than photos... Video content is PRICELESS nowadays. Not even close to see a few photos compared with a before-after VIDEO... A clear example of the impact and trasparency of a video is this tutorial you share with our community... would it be the same if this videos were just presented with a few photos and some written text? Absolutely NOT!!! Quarantine Self-Fade Tutorial How You Should Approach A Failed Hair Transplant? Dr. Bisanga Answers Therefore, I also agree with you that Top clinics should be uploading their patient results weekly if not monthly. Hopefully in the coming New Year, clinics start showing their passion for their work through video content. I´m sure all of us would love to see that, right? Really interesting post Oliver. Wow, and thanks for sharing those two videos from the Hair Restoration Network Youtube channel, both with great contend indeed. This for sure is an example that videos OFFER a lot more than just text along with images. VIDEOS bring the viewer closer to whatever the video is about. I totally agree with you that VIDEOS should already be a must for clinics. It's so much easier to see the final results when watching videos. In my humble opinion, videos really show the complete HONEST result. Thanks for sharing with us your ideas about the use of videos by Hair Transplant clinics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Gasthoerer Posted December 28, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted December 28, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Zinedine said: I totally agree with you that VIDEOS should already be a must for clinics. It's so much easier to see the final results when watching videos. In my humble opinion, videos really show the complete HONEST result. I tend to disagree. Videos are a nice add-on, but can in no way replace a presentation with high resolution pictures. Nothing can replace a close up of the hairline or the donor area to evaluate the quality of the work. Video is never that close-up and/or never achieves such a high-resolution/sharpness as a pic with a professional camera. Of course, pics can be misleading regarding lightning etc. (just look in my result thread, where I gave an example of my crown), but so can videos. Couto e.g. is a master in making his results look great in his videos (I am not saying there aren't good by any means). Edited December 28, 2020 by Gasthoerer 400+ grafts in 2018 and 2900 grafts in 2020 via FUE with Feriduni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member champybaby Posted December 28, 2020 Senior Member Share Posted December 28, 2020 On 12/7/2020 at 8:48 PM, JohnBob said: Not too long ago HT were synonymous of pluggy doll hair. Now dudes are show boating freaking johnny bravo hairstyles with a confidence lol, way to go If it wasn't for the plug, we wouldn't have FUT. And if it wasn't for FUT, we wouldn't have FUE. Big picture, plugs were a necessary step to get to where we are today. 1 FUT procedure w/ Dr. K (2012) Second FUT, Dr. K, Nov. 2020 (mini update) Third procedure, FUE, Dr. K, 03/21, 400 beard to scar (latest update) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Curious25 Posted January 18, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted January 18, 2021 Sp*x has just posted his 2021’s list of affiliated surgeons, sorry I mean, top 25 in the world if that’s of any help 🤭 Off topic but kind of on topic - ISHRS means jack sh*t for anyone still wondering, I was researching an ‘ISHRS’ member surgeon for a user who reached out to me on here, and found his clinics Instagram page have a before and after of a not so well cropped FUE expert result taken from Dr Couto’s YouTube channel. Unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Senior Member miko Posted January 20, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) https://www.apetogentleman.com/worlds-best-hair-transplant-doctors/ For me a lot of unknown names... Edited January 20, 2021 by miko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member miko Posted January 20, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted January 20, 2021 According statement of Clinica de Freitas, all HT are performed by Dr. Rafael De Freitas... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michelshanghai Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 On 10/13/2020 at 4:28 AM, whattheFUE said: I was referring to Couto's patient's posting their results on recuperarelpelo. I haven't bothered viewing his youtube videos because, well, they're posted by him. We'll just have to have different opinions on Konior. I certainly think the Konior/Lorenzo area changed what we all thought was possible with hair transplantation. I am referring to the rarity of his patient posted results over the last few years when I search by date. The proof is in the pudding, and the only real pudding we have is from patient submissions. I would be curious to hear the rankings of others. I kind of agree with you. Although there are many Konior patients cases if you scroll back in the passed years, what intrigues me is the difference of hairline quality in the cases published by Dr. K's office and the cases published by members themselves. I created a post listing quite many Dr. K patients cases, which don't impress me. Again, that's only my opinion : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted July 16, 2021 Administrators Share Posted July 16, 2021 31 minutes ago, michelshanghai said: I kind of agree with you. Although there are many Konior patients cases if you scroll back in the passed years, what intrigues me is the difference of hairline quality in the cases published by Dr. K's office and the cases published by members themselves. I created a post listing quite many Dr. K patients cases, which don't impress me. Again, that's only my opinion : Why are you bumping old threads? Definitely odd, and comes off like you have an agenda. You already have a thread to discuss your concerns. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michelshanghai Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Just now, Melvin- Moderator said: Why are you bumping old threads? Definitely odd, and comes off like you have an agenda. You already have a thread to discuss your concerns. What ? ? You mean that we are not allowed to comment old threads even they are linked to our own topic ??? If yes, please tell us now. Man, what kind of "good thinking" propaganda are you trying to put in place on the forum ? I thought that it was supposed to be a place of free speech where we can express different opinions. I lived in China for many years, thus my user name, and your way to try to denigrate and accuse members who ask questions you dislike remember me of the CCP's online police ... It's ridiculous you "accuse" me of having an agenda. I'm just trying to gather as much info and make my own opinion about a specific surgeon and you are trying to block me from doing that it seems. By behaving so irrationally, you are also ruining your credibility and that of the forum at the same time. We are supposed to help each others here, not go against each others. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted July 16, 2021 Administrators Share Posted July 16, 2021 1 minute ago, michelshanghai said: What ? ? You mean that we are not allowed to comment old threads even they are linked to our own topic ??? If yes, please tell us now. Man, what kind of "good thinking" propaganda are you trying to put in place on the forum ? I thought that it was supposed to be a place of free speech where we can express different opinions. I lived in China for many years, thus my user name, and your way to try to denigrate and accuse members who ask questions you dislike remember me of the CCP's online police ... It's ridiculous you "accuse" me of having an agenda. I'm just trying to gather as much info and make my own opinion about a specific surgeon and you are trying to block me from doing that it seems. By behaving so irrationally, you are also ruining your credibility and that of the forum at the same time. We are supposed to help each others here, not go against each others. You’ve been caught, clearly agenda posting. I had my suspicions but you lashing out like this just confirmed it. Trolls will never be able to hide their true identity. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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