Regular Member James Posted October 10, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 10, 2021 Just now, Gasthoerer said: I was looking at you initial pics! On this particular pic it looks (! not saying you do !) like you try to make it look worse, by parting the hair in the affected area. Anyway, I am still holding on to my assessment that the main issue is the design. The other issues are critical as well, but easier to fix. I get what you're saying, but this what my hair looked like everytime I took my work hat off and it bothered me heavily. As for the design, I have always had a feminine looking hairline. The tiny corner in the right is the only thing he touched and it has always had this look. He might have went a tiny lower than it was naturally but to me it's not as big of an issue as everything else. Thank you though, I like to see everyones perspectives on my situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Curious25 Posted October 10, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted October 10, 2021 1 hour ago, JohnAC71 said: It’s really sad that such a large country such as Australia doesn’t have any good options. Even worse than the Uk, and we are only a small country 😬 It’s large in size, but population wise they are less than half than us in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Curious25 Posted October 10, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted October 10, 2021 56 minutes ago, James said: I get what you're saying, but this what my hair looked like everytime I took my work hat off and it bothered me heavily. As for the design, I have always had a feminine looking hairline. The tiny corner in the right is the only thing he touched and it has always had this look. He might have went a tiny lower than it was naturally but to me it's not as big of an issue as everything else. Thank you though, I like to see everyones perspectives on my situation. Is that your current hairline now ? Or before surgery? Or before onset of hair loss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted October 10, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted October 10, 2021 17 minutes ago, Curious25 said: It’s large in size, but population wise they are less than half than us in the UK. I’m well aware of that, its just a shame their is no decent option in Oz. We have a few in the Uk but I wouldn’t say they are the worlds best. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member 1978matt Posted October 10, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted October 10, 2021 6 months is too early to start trashing the doctor. From my own experience the hair is still wiry and slightly unnatural looking at this stage and needs time to 'mature'. The outdoor photo doesn't look too bad so far. Indoor, under lights, is always going to look the worst. 4,312 FUT grafts (7,676 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - August 2013 1,145 FUE grafts (3,152 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - August 2018 763 FUE grafts (2,094 hairs) with Ray Konior, MD - January 2020 Proscar 1.25mg every 3rd day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Mike10 Posted October 10, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted October 10, 2021 Regardless of the final outcome, the approach of this Dr is unethical, operating somebody at 22 whose hairline has barely started to recede. Does not sound like the Dr educated you on the subject either. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member James Posted October 10, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 10, 2021 8 hours ago, Curious25 said: Is that your current hairline now ? Or before surgery? Or before onset of hair loss? Now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member James Posted October 10, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 10, 2021 5 hours ago, 1978matt said: 6 months is too early to start trashing the doctor. From my own experience the hair is still wiry and slightly unnatural looking at this stage and needs time to 'mature'. The outdoor photo doesn't look too bad so far. Indoor, under lights, is always going to look the worst. It's still see through and it's not getting and thicker, plus the doubles and triples on the hairline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted October 10, 2021 Administrators Share Posted October 10, 2021 12 hours ago, James said: Probably a better show of what I was dealing with before surgery. Definitely not a "maturing hairline" To be honest, it’s 6 months still early, and it looks like you’ve spread the hair apart. Guys, Let’s be very careful before trashing surgeons calling them scammers. This is not what our forum is about, personally I don’t know this surgeon or his skill, but let’s be respectful. 2 I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member TEXAN35 Posted October 11, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted October 11, 2021 And as people might have said we are our own worst critics. To me your hair doesn't look that unnatural or that you had a transplant, not at least from pics. Not sure if people who are close you notice that.. If its not that bad I would say do not rush into corrective procedure so quickly and wait for some time. It will give you a better idea of any possible progression of your hair loss and maybe a different perspective from now. Extremely localized transplant is not great idea in early 20s unless you are sure that you do not have progressive MPB in your genes. Personally I feel its better to ward off procedures to later years if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member James Posted October 11, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 11, 2021 3 hours ago, TEXAN35 said: And as people might have said we are our own worst critics. To me your hair doesn't look that unnatural or that you had a transplant, not at least from pics. Not sure if people who are close you notice that.. If its not that bad I would say do not rush into corrective procedure so quickly and wait for some time. It will give you a better idea of any possible progression of your hair loss and maybe a different perspective from now. Extremely localized transplant is not great idea in early 20s unless you are sure that you do not have progressive MPB in your genes. Personally I feel its better to ward off procedures to later years if possible. I don't actually think it look that unnatural at all, despite all the multi grafts. More of an issue of me walking around with a super noticable thin patch that I have to constantly hide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member James Posted October 11, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 11, 2021 8 hours ago, Melvin- Moderator said: To be honest, it’s 6 months still early, and it looks like you’ve spread the hair apart. Guys, Let’s be very careful before trashing surgeons calling them scammers. This is not what our forum is about, personally I don’t know this surgeon or his skill, but let’s be respectful. This photo was pre-surgery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Fue3361 Posted October 11, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted October 11, 2021 Listen, there's good and bad news. Bad news, it's poorly done. A bad job. What'd done is done though. Good news? Very easy fix. A good surgeon will fix this and you'll look great. Nothing to worry about. The only part that sucks is having to travel and have another surgery. Best of luck to you. 1 1 Check out my journey here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted October 11, 2021 Administrators Share Posted October 11, 2021 10 hours ago, James said: I don't actually think it look that unnatural at all, despite all the multi grafts. More of an issue of me walking around with a super noticable thin patch that I have to constantly hide. You were never a good candidate, and that was the doctors error for performing surgery. Don’t take this the wrong way, but it has to be said. You may have a case of body dysmorphia. I don’t believe any reasonable person would look at these photos and see anything other than a guy with a ton of hair. High expectations + poor counseling= disappointment. I’ll say this, you don’t need surgery, and more surgery isn’t gonna make you happier. I could definitely see you getting another surgery and then vehemently complain about the appearance of your donor, or how it looks when it’s wet. Hair transplants are not perfect. If no surgeons gonna tell you, I’ll say it. Don’t get surgery, we have nothing to gain by telling you the truth here. 1 1 I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member James Posted October 11, 2021 Author Regular Member Share Posted October 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Melvin- Moderator said: You were never a good candidate, and that was the doctors error for performing surgery. Don’t take this the wrong way, but it has to be said. You may have a case of body dysmorphia. I don’t believe any reasonable person would look at these photos and see anything other than a guy with a ton of hair. High expectations + poor counseling= disappointment. I’ll say this, you don’t need surgery, and more surgery isn’t gonna make you happier. I could definitely see you getting another surgery and then vehemently complain about the appearance of your donor, or how it looks when it’s wet. Hair transplants are not perfect. If no surgeons gonna tell you, I’ll say it. Don’t get surgery, we have nothing to gain by telling you the truth here. Regardless of it I was a good candidate or not I can't leave it the way it is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted October 11, 2021 Administrators Share Posted October 11, 2021 37 minutes ago, James said: Regardless of it I was a good candidate or not I can't leave it the way it is now. Yes you can and you should. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with how your hair looks. Nobody is even noticing I guarantee it. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member MachoVato Posted October 11, 2021 Senior Member Share Posted October 11, 2021 39 minutes ago, James said: Regardless of it I was a good candidate or not I can't leave it the way it is now. The issue with getting a transplant this young is that future hairloss is (more than likely) a certainty. So you'll lose hair behind the transplanted hairs, which will leave you with a bad appearance. Ultimately, you'll likely need to get another transplant in 5-10 years. If you maintain a strong donor area, you'll be able to do it with moderate success. That is, as long as you're not headed towards a NW7, which opens up a whole set of new problems. Yikes! All that said, the damage is done and you're on the transplant lifelong journey. If I was you, I wouldn't leave it as is, I would get it repaired by a top surgeon like H&W. Schedule it for 6 months away (12 months post-op). Travel options should be better for you by then. I agree that Canada is much easier to travel to/through than India. be sure to discuss the long term, multiple transplants plan. 1 HLC Ankara | 4261 Grafts | Nov 7, 2020 (Hairline) Dr. Bisanga, BHR Clinic in Brussels | 1528 Grafts | Aug 12, 2021 (Crown and Temples) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member James Posted August 6 Author Regular Member Share Posted August 6 Might do an actual post some time down the line but I just came across this and thought I'd do a quick update. I had most of them removed, they've healed semi-decently. In good lighting and styling you wouldn't know anything has happened. In harsher lighting in becomes a little more obvious: It's likely I'll go to Dr. Bisanga to remove the last few doubles and triples and do a proper hairline design and put this behind me, something like this: But as of now I am happy enough to at least live my life. If anyone has any questions let me know and I'll try to respond. Thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Gatsby Posted August 6 Valued Contributor Share Posted August 6 @James in hindsight, despite Dr Jayaprakash doing what he did to you (accepting you as a patient at 22, taking your money and lying about the doubles), to the untrained eye you look great. I personally wouldn’t touch it. You have a full head of hair that looks great. Now if you had have had 4,000 grafts extracted as opposed to Vikram’s claim of 400 grafts, things might be different. Despite going with an Australian surgeon in many ways you have dodged a bullet. Stat on the medication and enjoy your 20’s! 💯👌😊 GATSBY 'UNPLUGGED!' 15,671 (3 surgeries) Grafts FUE+BHT Dr. Sethi Eugenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member James Posted August 6 Author Regular Member Share Posted August 6 7 minutes ago, Gatsby said: @James in hindsight, despite Dr Jayaprakash doing what he did to you (accepting you as a patient at 22, taking your money and lying about the doubles), to the untrained eye you look great. I personally wouldn’t touch it. You have a full head of hair that looks great. Now if you had have had 4,000 grafts extracted as opposed to Vikram’s claim of 400 grafts, things might be different. Despite going with an Australian surgeon in many ways you have dodged a bullet. Stat on the medication and enjoy your 20’s! 💯👌😊 Thanks @Gatsby, I appreciate it. All things considered it could have been much worse. It is definitely true when they say a bad hair transplant is 10x worse than hair loss itself. Just a quick mention of something that I remembered just now. I tried to contact Dr. Vikram about a year after the inital surgery. Apparently he no longer works at the Knudsen Clinic and opened his own place, Atlantis Medical. Just thought that was interesting. Hopefully he's improved since then but who knows, I'm doubtful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Gatsby Posted August 6 Valued Contributor Share Posted August 6 Thanks for the heads up. 👍 GATSBY 'UNPLUGGED!' 15,671 (3 surgeries) Grafts FUE+BHT Dr. Sethi Eugenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Al - Moderator Posted August 7 Moderators Share Posted August 7 On 8/6/2024 at 2:25 AM, James said: It's likely I'll go to Dr. Bisanga to remove the last few doubles and triples and do a proper hairline design and put this behind me, something like this: First, thanks for coming back to update us. Now to comment on the quote above, you have a great hairline. Leave it alone. You just removed grafts and now you're thinking of adding some back again. Stop. Don't ruin a perfectly good natural hairline that is full. Al Forum Moderator (formerly BeHappy) I am a paid forum moderator for hairrestorationnetwork.com. I am not a Dr. and I do not work for any particular Dr. My opinions are my own and may not reflect the opinions of other moderators or the owner of this site. I am also a hair transplant patient and repair patient. You can view some of my repair journey here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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