Regular Member mark2137 Posted September 9, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 9, 2022 Hi A small delay as I wanted to have a haircut first. 6 months mark. Photos with natural light and from a bathroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Gatsby Posted September 9, 2022 Valued Contributor Share Posted September 9, 2022 @mark2137 at six months you are looking great. You can see the change kicking in at month 4-5. When you compare now to your baseline it’s like night and day! Many happy growing months ahead of you! Thanks for sharing! 👍 1 GATSBY 'UNPLUGGED!' 15,671 (3 surgeries) Grafts FUE+BHT Dr. Sethi Eugenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member mark2137 Posted September 9, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted September 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Gatsby said: @mark2137 at six months you are looking great. You can see the change kicking in at month 4-5. When you compare now to your baseline it’s like night and day! Many happy growing months ahead of you! Thanks for sharing! 👍 Thanks, Gatsby! Yes, 4 month was crucial. Only then I started feeling comfortable while going out haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Iceee222 Posted September 23, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted September 23, 2022 On 6/27/2022 at 2:38 AM, THE TRUTH said: Of course. I was just trolling and kidding a little bit. I agree with you. Bicer is good. Best option if you are on a budget for sure but certainly not comparable to the elite surgeons. She is a bit hyped on this forum. But she's good and consistent. Couto is amazing too. I talked about him many times. I like his work and I always recommend him but in all honesty he is also way overhyped. But I just don't think he is necessarily better than Pinto, Ximena, Ferreira etc... Just like everyone I've seen the excellent cherry picked results on his youtube channel but I've also seen a couple average ones on the italian and spanish hairloss forums ! That said he is an amazing surgeon and I like him. Hey few questions… Why do you think Bicer is overrated and doesn’t compare to the elite doctors I’m genuinely curious as I’m looking into her? Also would you put De Freitas pinto Couto ferriera all in the elite category? Who else would you put in the elite category? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Spring15 Posted September 24, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted September 24, 2022 On your 7 month pics, if you post them - are you able to lift your hair up so we can see around the hairline area? thanks & happy growing 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member mark2137 Posted November 3, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted November 3, 2022 Hi guys Apologies I didn't post 7 month update. I was on holidays. However, not much changed during the last 2 months. Right now I have two things on my mind. 1. When do you think I should start considering my second procedure? I'm 28 now. Of course, I can see a huge difference already but I'm losing my hair + midscalp hairs are much thinner and less dense than my front. Should I just survive as long as I can? 2. I have no idea how to manage my hair haha. I like the fact I have curly hair but to fully benefit from it I shouldn't use a hair dryer and a narrow comb. On the other hand, a narrow comb helps me to hide balder spots. When I just let my hair to dry (without a comb) I'm not able to do anything with it and I look much balder. A lot of people tell me to raise my hair which is also very difficult because of the difference I mentioned in the first point. It's frustrating. I do use fibres and you can see the outcome in the last picture. I would appreciate any advice @Spring15 first photos at your request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Spring15 Posted November 4, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted November 4, 2022 Your transplant looks similar to my first, decent enough. That was in 2017 Going for my second early next year , I'm 31. In hindsight I wish I had it last year or 2020 but COVID + was in a relationship so wasn't thinking about my hair much If I were you I'd get your second next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member ScottishGuy21 Posted November 4, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted November 4, 2022 6 months in is still very early to be making a final judgment. Growth is good and lots more expected so I highly doubt what we see how is anywhere near how it will be in another 6 months time. Looks great so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member ITA Posted November 4, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted November 4, 2022 In Dr. Bicer's clinic, are microscopes and lenses undeniably used to separate double or multiple follicular units from single ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Berba11 Posted November 4, 2022 Valued Contributor Share Posted November 4, 2022 (edited) Hi mate, I normally like Bicer's work and you've had pretty decent growth, but I have to say I'm very surprised to see how many double graft hairs are all over the hairline. I don't want to be alarming or cause you any stress but to me this isn't very good hairline work at all. It lacks the softness we expect from good Dr's, and as someone who has recommended Bicer on this forum several times, I find this image below quite worrying. I also don't like the way the temple corners meet the temple points. How do you feel about it? EDIT: the doubles I've highlighted below are the most visibly obvious. I can see plenty of others in the rows right behind as well that appear to be doubles but I can't say for sure. I'm seeing the same thing in your picture on the other side of the hairline, too. Edited November 4, 2022 by Berba11 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Yan bio Posted November 4, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted November 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, Berba11 said: Hi mate, I normally like Bicer's work and you've had pretty decent growth, but I have to say I'm very surprised to see how many double graft hairs are all over the hairline. I don't want to be alarming or cause you any stress but to me this isn't very good hairline work at all. It lacks the softness we expect from good Dr's, and as someone who has recommended Bicer on this forum several times, I find this image below quite worrying. I also don't like the way the temple corners meet the temple points. How do you feel about it? EDIT: the doubles I've highlighted below are the most visibly obvious. I can see plenty of others in the rows right behind as well that appear to be doubles but I can't say for sure. I'm seeing the same thing in your picture on the other side of the hairline, too. This is a bit surprising coming from bicer.. Still nice growth🙏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Spring15 Posted November 5, 2022 Senior Member Share Posted November 5, 2022 9 hours ago, ScottishGuy21 said: 6 months in is still very early to be making a final judgment. Growth is good and lots more expected so I highly doubt what we see how is anywhere near how it will be in another 6 months time. Looks great so far. This is nearly 8 months. I doubt there will be significant further growth but we'll see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member mark2137 Posted November 6, 2022 Author Regular Member Share Posted November 6, 2022 On 11/4/2022 at 8:27 PM, Berba11 said: I don't want to be alarming or cause you any stress but to me this isn't very good hairline work at all. How do you feel about it? Hi, it's fine, no worries. So how would you rate my result from 1 to 10? Honestly, the difference is so huge that I cannot be dissatisfied. That was my first out of two or three HTs and not treating it as a final result also changes my view. I'm just very curious what you, guys here, think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Berba11 Posted November 6, 2022 Valued Contributor Share Posted November 6, 2022 42 minutes ago, mark2137 said: Hi, it's fine, no worries. So how would you rate my result from 1 to 10? Honestly, the difference is so huge that I cannot be dissatisfied. That was my first out of two or three HTs and not treating it as a final result also changes my view. I'm just very curious what you, guys here, think The softness & naturalness of the hairline to me is about a 2/10 at best. The growth is good though. I’m just really surprised this is Bicer’s work as she’s a highly regarded surgeon & that number of multiple hair grafts in the hairline is inexcusable. Personally I’d be querying this with her as those grafts simply shouldn’t be there. Its an easy enough fix though; punch out the biggest offenders and implant more soft singles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Johnny129 Posted November 6, 2022 Regular Member Share Posted November 6, 2022 (edited) . Edited November 6, 2022 by Johnny129 Irrelevant to this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Balding Bad Posted January 6, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted January 6, 2023 So what's the latest update? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member mark2137 Posted January 7, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted January 7, 2023 Hi All, 10 month update. I will post the last one one year after the surgery - in March. The first set of photos - with natural light - it was very, very bright. Just FYI. Again, I will appreciate all tips on when would you go for a second procedure and some feedback if you even see any difference vs my latest update. I don't comb my hair like this on a daily basis. I let them curl more and stand + I use fibers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member mark2137 Posted March 28, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 28, 2023 Hi So, this is my last update. One year ago I had my surgery and I will just simply say it was totally worth it. I cannot recognise myself in older pictures. I'm very grateful to Dr. Bicer. For the surgery itself but also for the post-op care. Now, I will enjoy what I have and in September I'm about to go for the second run. Thanks to all of you who were following my progress. Take care and see you 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member MachoVato Posted March 29, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted March 29, 2023 On 3/28/2023 at 7:17 AM, mark2137 said: Hi So, this is my last update. One year ago I had my surgery and I will just simply say it was totally worth it. I cannot recognise myself in older pictures. I'm very grateful to Dr. Bicer. For the surgery itself but also for the post-op care. Now, I will enjoy what I have and in September I'm about to go for the second run. Thanks to all of you who were following my progress. Take care and see you It really is amazing when we look back pre-surgery and are so surprised at the difference. Have you selected where you will go for your second HT? I would recommend a clinic that specializes in hairlines. It's going to be tricky to improve you hairline without lowering it, I would think. HLC Ankara | 4261 Grafts | Nov 7, 2020 (Hairline) Dr. Bisanga, BHR Clinic in Brussels | 1528 Grafts | Aug 12, 2021 (Crown and Temples) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member WoundedWolf Posted March 29, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted March 29, 2023 I can see many multigrafts in hairline when hair is lifted up, also some tenting i guess in lighting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Spring15 Posted March 30, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted March 30, 2023 Who are you going for your second transplant? I hope a hairline specialist.. De Freitas / Pekiner / Keser .. etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member mark2137 Posted March 30, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted March 30, 2023 I think I have mentioned it already but the plan was to have at least 2 HTs from the very beginning. As one year ago I was 27 and I'm still balding, Dr. Bicer (and some users here with whom I agree) planned not to make the hairline too dense as the density of the top of my head is decreasing. I can see very clearly that my hairline is more dense than the top (well, the space just after the hairline and before the top haha) because I lost some more hairs but it looks good and I can call it a transitional phase. That is why I'm very happy with the result. It all went according to the plan. I was never promised and I was never expecting a full and dense results after the first HT. Regarding tenting/sparse areas, please check to which areas I had grafts inserted. In real life I got only good reviews. No one never asked me, if I had a HT. My hairdresser said she wouldn't have known. And, of course, my life improved a lot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Tres Posted March 30, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted March 30, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dhhhh said: My problem. With this forum is that people don’t call out bad work from affiliated surgeons with the network All opinions about this transplant aside, I'm not sure what regular users would gain from giving dishonest feedback about any surgeons work. That being said, it's of course okay to be critical but if @mark2137 or anyone else on here is happy with their result there's no need to be overly negative about it. There are tons of pictures and people can judge for themselves if this result is what they would like to see for their own transplant or not. I think it turned out nicely. Edited March 30, 2023 by Tres 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Spring15 Posted March 30, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted March 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Tres said: All opinions about this transplant aside, I'm not sure what regular users would gain from giving dishonest feedback about any surgeons work. That being said, it's of course okay to be critical but if @mark2137 or anyone else on here is happy with their result there's no need to be overly negative about it. There are tons of pictures and people can judge for themselves if this result is what they would like to see for their own transplant or not. I think it turned out nicely. Bicer has gained a lot of hype on this forum through a few top tier results, but there are plenty of average ones too. She by the sounds of it has good moral integrity & cares for her patients. She is a good surgeon but not comparable to the top dogs delivering consistent killer results This is turning out decent, not amazing - I think @Dhhhh is being a little harsh with the criticism claiming this is "bad" 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Britanium Posted March 30, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted March 30, 2023 4 hours ago, Spring15 said: Bicer has gained a lot of hype on this forum through a few top tier results, but there are plenty of average ones too. She by the sounds of it has good moral integrity & cares for her patients. She is a good surgeon but not comparable to the top dogs delivering consistent killer results This is turning out decent, not amazing - I think @Dhhhh is being a little harsh with the criticism claiming this is "bad" Yeah, I see “decent” results more often than not from Dr Bicer, very capable and very experienced, not all results turn out amazing. Some are ok and that’s fine, I can’t see what that poster wrote but “bad” is too much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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