Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted July 24 Author Administrators Share Posted July 24 1 hour ago, Mauricio said: After being on Xyon Dutasteride for a year, hair stabilized and got some reasonably regrowth and thickening. I experimented switching to their Finasteride + Minoxidil, because I was curious to see if it'd have less of an impact on my serum DHT levels, since Dutasteride lower it by 42%. I also like the convenience of just doing once a day application instead of minoxidil in the morning and Dutasteride at night. After 2.5 months on Xyon's Finasteride my serum DHT went down 68%!! compared to before I started applying any 5 AR inhibitor. So, I'm not sure what to think of the Syloxysystem. At a 68% serum DHT reduction, I might as well take oral Finasteride. I'll go back to their Dutasteride, since it seems to be more effective (at least on paper) and caused a less drastic reduction in serum DHT. Has anyone of you guys measured your serum DHT levels before and after Xyon? Have you noticed any side effects on their Dutasteride? I haven’t, but 42% after using it daily isn’t bad. Do you use it daily? I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted July 24 Author Administrators Share Posted July 24 So far, my results are fantastic. No side effects thus far, but im strictly on dutasteride. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Mauricio Posted July 24 Regular Member Share Posted July 24 1 minute ago, Melvin- Admin said: I haven’t, but 42% after using it daily isn’t bad. Do you use it daily? Yes, daily since I started. It seemed that on their Finasteride it was harder to get an erection than with Dutasteride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Mauricio Posted July 24 Regular Member Share Posted July 24 1 minute ago, Melvin- Admin said: So far, my results are fantastic. No side effects thus far, but im strictly on dutasteride. Looks good. In terms of results, I noticed that both definitely work for me. Now it's a matter of what causes less systemic impact and side effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Smacias15 Posted July 24 Regular Member Share Posted July 24 1 hour ago, Mauricio said: After being on Xyon Dutasteride for a year, hair stabilized and got some reasonably regrowth and thickening. I experimented switching to their Finasteride + Minoxidil, because I was curious to see if it'd have less of an impact on my serum DHT levels, since Dutasteride lower it by 42%. I also like the convenience of just doing once a day application instead of minoxidil in the morning and Dutasteride at night. After 2.5 months on Xyon's Finasteride my serum DHT went down 68%!! compared to before I started applying any 5 AR inhibitor. So, I'm not sure what to think of the Syloxysystem. At a 68% serum DHT reduction, I might as well take oral Finasteride. I'll go back to their Dutasteride, since it seems to be more effective (at least on paper) and caused a less drastic reduction in serum DHT. Has anyone of you guys measured your serum DHT levels before and after Xyon? Have you noticed any side effects on their Dutasteride? I have been in oral finasteride 1mg a day for 6 months and my DHT Blood work came back and it was 25ng. I’m assuming that’s good. But i wonder if the xyon gel would be even better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Mauricio Posted July 24 Regular Member Share Posted July 24 20 minutes ago, Smacias15 said: I have been in oral finasteride 1mg a day for 6 months and my DHT Blood work came back and it was 25ng. I’m assuming that’s good. But i wonder if the xyon gel would be even better With Xyon Finasteride my DHT went from 57ng to 18ng. With Xyon Dutasteride it was at 33ng after 6 months of daily application Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Smacias15 Posted July 24 Regular Member Share Posted July 24 22 minutes ago, Mauricio said: With Xyon Finasteride my DHT went from 57ng to 18ng. With Xyon Dutasteride it was at 33ng after 6 months of daily application Wow so xyon fin is more effective for you than xyon dustasteride I see. Might make the jump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Mauricio Posted July 24 Regular Member Share Posted July 24 (edited) On 7/24/2024 at 12:30 PM, Smacias15 said: Wow so xyon fin is more effective for you than xyon dustasteride I see. Might make the jump I don’t think it’s more effective. What matters is the DHT reduction in the scalp not in the serum. It seems that Dutasteride might be more effective at that, but we can’t be sure unless someone measures their scalp DHT to determine. Edited July 26 by Mauricio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member hockeyman Posted July 26 Regular Member Share Posted July 26 That is disturbing to hear about the topical finasteride decreasing serum dht by about as much as the oral. I always thought it was about 30% for the topical. Perhaps it explains why my body hair has thinned so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member arthurSam Posted July 26 Regular Member Share Posted July 26 7 hours ago, hockeyman said: That is disturbing to hear about the topical finasteride decreasing serum dht by about as much as the oral. I always thought it was about 30% for the topical. Perhaps it explains why my body hair has thinned so much. Have you tried 0.05mg oral fin ? It decrease 50% dht in blood instead of 70% but it decrease 60% dht in scalp like 1mg ? Minoxidil : 5% topical 1ml/day (with Melatonin 0.0033%, Fisetin 1%, Resveratrol 2%, NMN 1%, Ginko 1%, Caffein 0.2%) DHT and Follicular androgen receptor inhibitor : Topical dutasteride 0.05% twice a week + Fluridil + Pyrilutamide Koshine826 Exosome Mesotherapy 1mm : human Umbilical Chord Exosomes ; see my progress pics here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted July 29 Author Administrators Share Posted July 29 Feels like a slight growth. I don’t know if ill ever have no weak spots, but big improvement. I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Carson85 Posted July 30 Regular Member Share Posted July 30 9 hours ago, Melvin- Admin said: Feels like a slight growth. I don’t know if ill ever have no weak spots, but big improvement. Please correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t you on oral minoxidil too? I think you talked about it on youtube. Either way great results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted July 30 Author Administrators Share Posted July 30 15 hours ago, Carson85 said: Please correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t you on oral minoxidil too? I think you talked about it on youtube. Either way great results. Yes, I was on oral minoxidil for 6 months before getting on topical dutasteride. However, I just recently started using Xyon shampoo and conditioner. I wanted to share some outdoor shots towards the sun. For comparison before hair transplants and medication. The multiple HTs has helped my donor and top have less of a demarcation line. This has helped immensely. 2 I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Al - Moderator Posted July 31 Moderators Share Posted July 31 @Melvin- Admin I wouldn’t even call your crown weak anymore. It looks practically full to me. Al Forum Moderator (formerly BeHappy) I am a paid forum moderator for hairrestorationnetwork.com. I am not a Dr. and I do not work for any particular Dr. My opinions are my own and may not reflect the opinions of other moderators or the owner of this site. I am also a hair transplant patient and repair patient. You can view some of my repair journey here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Smacias15 Posted July 31 Regular Member Share Posted July 31 22 hours ago, Melvin- Admin said: Yes, I was on oral minoxidil for 6 months before getting on topical dutasteride. However, I just recently started using Xyon shampoo and conditioner. I wanted to share some outdoor shots towards the sun. For comparison before hair transplants and medication. The multiple HTs has helped my donor and top have less of a demarcation line. This has helped immensely. Why did you stop taking oral minoxidil? Doesn’t topical dutasteride handle dht only while minoxidil handles miniaturization? So topical dutasteride handles both issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted July 31 Author Administrators Share Posted July 31 1 hour ago, Smacias15 said: Why did you stop taking oral minoxidil? Doesn’t topical dutasteride handle dht only while minoxidil handles miniaturization? So topical dutasteride handles both issues? Im still on minoxidil. 1 I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member SoSoz Posted August 1 Regular Member Share Posted August 1 Still on 5mg minoxidil or 2.5mg? Also will this product ever be available in europe? Is this safe if I sleep near my gf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Panamera13 Posted August 5 Senior Member Share Posted August 5 On 7/31/2024 at 12:37 PM, Melvin- Admin said: Im still on minoxidil. oral or foam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted August 5 Author Administrators Share Posted August 5 16 minutes ago, Panamera13 said: oral or foam? Oral I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted August 26 Author Administrators Share Posted August 26 1 I’m a paid admin for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive any compensation from any clinic. My comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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