Regular Member jondoeuk Posted July 2, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted July 2, 2023 Anyone used it? If so, results and any sides? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member 12345 Posted July 2, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted July 2, 2023 id recommend trying it if you dont have sexual side effects from fin, any ant-dht medications. if you are prone to sides from these category of meds, i would avoid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member TorontoMan Posted July 2, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted July 2, 2023 Not many positive anecdotes for efficacy in my experience. Two of my friends were on it for a period of time without side effects however, but it might be too mild of an anti androgen to maintain hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member arthurSam Posted July 2, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted July 2, 2023 I take it with cosmerna since about 2 months and I loss less hairs in my shower ; I am on topical minox too from a very long time Minoxidil : 5% topical 1ml/day (with Melatonin 0.0033%, Fisetin 1%, Resveratrol 2%, NMN 1%, Ginko 1%, Caffein 0.2%) DHT and Follicular androgen receptor inhibitor : Topical dutasteride 0.05% twice a week + Fluridil + Pyrilutamide Koshine826 Exosome Mesotherapy 1mm : human Umbilical Chord Exosomes ; see my progress pics here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member jondoeuk Posted July 6, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted July 6, 2023 On 7/2/2023 at 11:21 PM, arthurSam said: I take it with cosmerna since about 2 months and I loss less hairs in my shower ; I am on topical minox too from a very long time From eucapil-shop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member jondoeuk Posted July 6, 2023 Author Regular Member Share Posted July 6, 2023 On 7/2/2023 at 8:32 PM, TorontoMan said: Not many positive anecdotes for efficacy in my experience. Two of my friends were on it for a period of time without side effects however, but it might be too mild of an anti androgen to maintain hair. The current version is 2%, but I know actifolic are selling 5%, 8% or 10%, which could improve efficacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member arthurSam Posted July 6, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted July 6, 2023 1 hour ago, jondoeuk said: From eucapil-shop? yes Minoxidil : 5% topical 1ml/day (with Melatonin 0.0033%, Fisetin 1%, Resveratrol 2%, NMN 1%, Ginko 1%, Caffein 0.2%) DHT and Follicular androgen receptor inhibitor : Topical dutasteride 0.05% twice a week + Fluridil + Pyrilutamide Koshine826 Exosome Mesotherapy 1mm : human Umbilical Chord Exosomes ; see my progress pics here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Steady45 Posted August 27, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted August 27, 2023 On 7/3/2023 at 5:32 AM, TorontoMan said: Not many positive anecdotes for efficacy in my experience. Two of my friends were on it for a period of time without side effects however, but it might be too mild of an anti androgen to maintain hair. What about stacking it with either fin/dut to target the remaining androgens that still make it to the scalp? Noting that 1mg finasteride only reduces scalp DHT by 30%-ish and .5mg dutasteride by 50%-ish. I ask as I am a NWII still losing ground (albiet slowly) after 3 years on 1mg fin daily and 10 months on .5mg dut every 3 days (as well as minox, tretinoin and microneedling). I was thinking it may be useful to source a higher dose of fluridil (between 4-8%) and use this to knock out the remaining androgens not affected by my oral fin/dut. Were your friends using fluridil as monotherapy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member TorontoMan Posted August 27, 2023 Senior Member Share Posted August 27, 2023 5 hours ago, Steady45 said: What about stacking it with either fin/dut to target the remaining androgens that still make it to the scalp? Noting that 1mg finasteride only reduces scalp DHT by 30%-ish and .5mg dutasteride by 50%-ish. I ask as I am a NWII still losing ground (albiet slowly) after 3 years on 1mg fin daily and 10 months on .5mg dut every 3 days (as well as minox, tretinoin and microneedling). I was thinking it may be useful to source a higher dose of fluridil (between 4-8%) and use this to knock out the remaining androgens not affected by my oral fin/dut. Were your friends using fluridil as monotherapy? Yeah would be a good combination, essentially what I do with RU. Another option could be to add topical fin/Dut to try to get the conversion effect in the scalp directly. my friends were using it mono and there weren’t many noticeable differences, but at a higher dose with a 5ar it will likely work better. where do you live ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Steady45 Posted August 30, 2023 Regular Member Share Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) On 8/28/2023 at 12:45 AM, TorontoMan said: Yeah would be a good combination, essentially what I do with RU. Another option could be to add topical fin/Dut to try to get the conversion effect in the scalp directly. my friends were using it mono and there weren’t many noticeable differences, but at a higher dose with a 5ar it will likely work better. Yeah cool, I can see why then. fluridil monotherapy does not seem very promising. I was considering doing the same as you with RU until i tried pyrilutamide and got bad cardiac sides after 1 months use. After that, the only anti-androgen i'll consider is fluridil. Yes I think I will add topical dut as well. I had been considering it for a while but after seeing this study the other day that seems to confirm all the hype i've finally made up my mind: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35648446/. Hopefully, a protocol of oral fin & dut, topical dut, and topical fluridil (at least 4%, considering 6-8%) will be enough to stop the androgens that oral fin & dut alone don't seem to be targeting. On 8/28/2023 at 12:45 AM, TorontoMan said: where do you live ? I'm in Australia brother. Not cheap to get fluridil out here but probably worth it given my situation. Edited August 30, 2023 by Steady45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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