Regular Member Vaz430 Posted January 28 Regular Member Share Posted January 28 The transplant was 10.5 months ago with Dr. Haber and it was 1,300 grafts. There wasn't a lot of area below where my original hairline was that he added grafts, but I would say maybe 10% of those grafts have grown in. In the last pic, below the green line is what was added and you can see it's just sporadic hair here and there. And that pic is a close up of the front, on the left side, almost none of the hair grew in below my original hairline. Behind the hairline that I already had I can tell that there is some density added, but it's harder to guess what percent of those grafts grew in because I already had most of my original hair there. Overall, I would say there is a negligible to slightly noticeable difference, but definitely not worth ~$10k and the recovery. It sux because I think I was in a lot better starting position than a lot of other guys beforehand and many of them seem to have pretty big changes, even from one transplant, but mine made things just slightly better. At least not a lot of grafts were wasted. It was estimated they were going to do closer to do 2k but only did the 1.3k, so they definitely weren't trying to rip me off, but the results are just not great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member Shadman Posted January 28 Senior Member Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, Vaz430 said: The transplant was 10.5 months ago with Dr. Haber and it was 1,300 grafts. There wasn't a lot of area below where my original hairline was that he added grafts, but I would say maybe 10% of those grafts have grown in. In the last pic, below the green line is what was added and you can see it's just sporadic hair here and there. And that pic is a close up of the front, on the left side, almost none of the hair grew in below my original hairline. Behind the hairline that I already had I can tell that there is some density added, but it's harder to guess what percent of those grafts grew in because I already had most of my original hair there. Overall, I would say there is a negligible to slightly noticeable difference, but definitely not worth ~$10k and the recovery. It sux because I think I was in a lot better starting position than a lot of other guys beforehand and many of them seem to have pretty big changes, even from one transplant, but mine made things just slightly better. At least not a lot of grafts were wasted. It was estimated they were going to do closer to do 2k but only did the 1.3k, so they definitely weren't trying to rip me off, but the results are just not great. Yes, poor density. Seems like just didn’t grow. If you want to go for a repair procedure, select a surgeon with some proper result. You just can’t afford another poor result. Best wishes 👍 𝐄𝐮𝐠𝐞𝐧𝐢𝐱 / 𝐃𝐫. 𝐒𝐨𝐦𝐞𝐬𝐡 / 𝟏𝟖𝟎𝟑𝐆𝐫𝐚𝐟𝐭𝐬 / 𝐉𝐮𝐧𝐞 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟑 / 𝐁𝐚𝐝 𝐇𝐚𝐢𝐫 𝐓𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐬𝐩𝐥𝐚𝐧𝐭 𝐑𝐞𝐩𝐚𝐢𝐫𝐞𝐝 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member duchaine Posted January 28 Senior Member Share Posted January 28 before and after pic look exactly the same. Did you really have an HT? Or you are testing how knowledge? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Vaz430 Posted January 28 Author Regular Member Share Posted January 28 (edited) 6 hours ago, gaz9318054 said: Would you mind sharing some photos from just before/after the procedure, and maybe some progress pictures around 3 months, 6 months, etc.? Here are some. To be clear I was already worried about density from the start. He said he couldn't place them closer cause it would be hard for them to grow if he put them too close. But I think from the start it wasn't as dense as many others have from the start. Also I think the right side had higher density than the left from the start. Edited January 28 by Vaz430 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Vaz430 Posted January 28 Author Regular Member Share Posted January 28 25 minutes ago, duchaine said: before and after pic look exactly the same. Did you really have an HT? Or you are testing how knowledge? Sadly, I am not joking lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member jjalay Posted January 28 Regular Member Share Posted January 28 Have you talked to the doctor about this because it looks as you have gotten zero growth? Did he gave any answers because he is recommended also in this forum? I think you should push hard to get your money back, this result is not acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Vaz430 Posted January 28 Author Regular Member Share Posted January 28 29 minutes ago, jjalay said: Have you talked to the doctor about this because it looks as you have gotten zero growth? Did he gave any answers because he is recommended also in this forum? I think you should push hard to get your money back, this result is not acceptable. Me posting this is the first thing I've done. Everyone would probably just say wait 12 months if I posted earlier. I've read many posts of people worried about growth on here and on reddit and everyone says that. But now I.I near 12 months, so definitely mostly know what I got out of it. Have you heard of doctors who give refunds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member jjalay Posted January 28 Regular Member Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, Vaz430 said: Me posting this is the first thing I've done. Everyone would probably just say wait 12 months if I posted earlier. I've read many posts of people worried about growth on here and on reddit and everyone says that. But now I.I near 12 months, so definitely mostly know what I got out of it. Have you heard of doctors who give refunds? If this is the final result yes there are many doctors that will give you a refund. If the doctor is ethical enough he should do that if you dont want to proceed with another surgery. You should definitely get in contact with the doctor and ask him for a possible resolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mavigo Posted January 29 Senior Member Share Posted January 29 @Vaz430 Have you not been in contact with your physician at all after the procedure? It looks like you've answered my question in your previous comments. Talk to Dr. Haber immediately and tell him your concerns. FUE 2400 Grafts (2023) - Dr. Panine; Chicago Hair Transplant Clinic FUT 1400 Grafts (2019) - Dr. Steven Paul Holt; Holt Hair Restoration/Bella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Amiele Posted January 29 Regular Member Share Posted January 29 (edited) 7 hours ago, Vaz430 said: Here are some. To be clear I was already worried about density from the start. He said he couldn't place them closer cause it would be hard for them to grow if he put them too close. But I think from the start it wasn't as dense as many others have from the start. Also I think the right side had higher density than the left from the start. Did the doctor elaborate on why implanting the grafts closer together would prevent growth? Does he perform a lot of surgeries where the recipient area isn’t shaved? While Dr. Haber may be on this website’s recommended list, I personally would only opt for doctors who focus solely on patients with hair loss, as it looks like he also sees patients for general dermatologic complaints. Edited January 29 by Amiele Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valued Contributor Berba11 Posted January 29 Valued Contributor Share Posted January 29 It’s hard to say exactly, but it sort of looks like what was implanted did in fact grow (not all of it, but certainly some), but you had so few hairs implanted to begin with that it’s hard to see what the actual plan was here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member mavigo Posted January 29 Senior Member Share Posted January 29 @Vaz430 I'm going to be straight with you, I find it odd that you think there is a 12 month "wait period" before you can complain to your doctor about poor results yet you already are publicly denouncing the doctor on these forums. Dr. Haber is vouched by HRN (although that is not an end all thing). For me, 18 months after procedure is really more or less the timeframe before you can make a final conclusion on a HT. Furthermore, your photos are at strange angles and it is hard to follow what is going on. It would be good to have the 5 standard angles: front, front angled down, both sides and top of head. Hope everything goes well, contact the doctor's office as soon as you can. FUE 2400 Grafts (2023) - Dr. Panine; Chicago Hair Transplant Clinic FUT 1400 Grafts (2019) - Dr. Steven Paul Holt; Holt Hair Restoration/Bella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Melvin- Admin Posted January 29 Administrators Share Posted January 29 Send me your name and date of surgery. I will reach out to Dr. Haber on your behalf. He’s an ethical surgeon. Looking at the graft placement. It doesn’t look like a large number of grafts. 1 Quote I was just an inch away from booking a a hairmill based on google reviews before i stumbled upon this goldmine of a forum. I’m a paid administrator for Hair Transplant Network. I do not receive compensation from any clinic, and my comments are not medical advice. Check out my final hair transplant and topical dutasteride journey: View my thread Topical dutasteride journey Melvin- Managing Publisher and Forum Moderator for the Hair Transplant Network, the Coalition Hair Loss Learning Center, and the Hair Loss Q&A Blog. Follow our Social Media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, and YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Vaz430 Posted January 29 Author Regular Member Share Posted January 29 2 hours ago, Melvin- Admin said: Send me your name and date of surgery. I will reach out to Dr. Haber on your behalf. He’s an ethical surgeon. Looking at the graft placement. It doesn’t look like a large number of grafts. Thanks for the offer. I can reach out and update back what they say. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member FUT4000 Posted January 30 Senior Member Share Posted January 30 It's interesting some people are saying speak to your doc about it when clearly there wasn't a sufficient amount of grafts that were placed to even make a difference in your case. Best to consult with a different reputable surgeon that will help you reach your goals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Tommy1991 Posted January 30 Regular Member Share Posted January 30 It’s pathetic. The gaps between graft placement of shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Vaz430 Posted January 30 Author Regular Member Share Posted January 30 (edited) 3 hours ago, FUT4000 said: It's interesting some people are saying speak to your doc about it when clearly there wasn't a sufficient amount of grafts that were placed to even make a difference in your case. Best to consult with a different reputable surgeon that will help you reach your goals. This is what I'm thinking. I think best case scenario I get money back. If he offers to touch it up, I'm worried about going back to him. And even then I will have to go thru the recovery twice when it should have only been once. Edited January 30 by Vaz430 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Member FUT4000 Posted January 30 Senior Member Share Posted January 30 37 minutes ago, Vaz430 said: This is what I'm thinking. I think best case scenario I get money back. If he offers to touch it up, I'm worried about going back to him. And even then I will have to go thru the recovery twice when it should have only been once. After seeing the immediate post op and final result I would reconsider a touch up from this surgeon. Getting a refund is between you and the doc but I recommend finding a new surgeon for your next surgery. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Vaz430 Posted January 30 Author Regular Member Share Posted January 30 On 1/28/2024 at 9:50 PM, Amiele said: Did the doctor elaborate on why implanting the grafts closer together would prevent growth? Does he perform a lot of surgeries where the recipient area isn’t shaved? While Dr. Haber may be on this website’s recommended list, I personally would only opt for doctors who focus solely on patients with hair loss, as it looks like he also sees patients for general dermatologic complaints. I don't recall him elaborating, just that he couldn't place them closer. He does do a lot where they don't shave their head, particularly with females. Even though he doesn't only focus on transplants, he said he does about 150 transplants per yr and has been doing them for decades, so that's why I wasn't concerned about experience or being rusty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Apk0214 Posted February 2 Regular Member Share Posted February 2 Any luck or update on this so far? Was considering him for some hairline work in the near future since he is reputable on this forum but it seems like there aren’t many recent results? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Vaz430 Posted February 23 Author Regular Member Share Posted February 23 On 2/2/2024 at 2:00 PM, Apk0214 said: Any luck or update on this so far? Was considering him for some hairline work in the near future since he is reputable on this forum but it seems like there aren’t many recent results? He said I need to make an appointment so he can look at it. He said that in some cases they may do some grafts for free. I don't live in that town so I will have to find time to take a vaca day and drive up there. I agree there aren't a lot of recent results. My experience is that I wouldn't recommend him, which doesn't mean there aren't other people who had a good result from him, but that's mine. I think if you look at the graft spacing to begin with they weren't very tight compared to others. And then on top of that they didn't all come in. I literally have spots where I have 2 hair grafts out in front almost by itself(pic 2), and you can see how thin all of the hair in front is in comparison to my original hairline. Even if he were to offer more grafts, I'd have to trust that this time it works out better, and even then I'd have to go thru 2 recoveries for results that could have been acheived in 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member ZaynSzn Posted May 31 Regular Member Share Posted May 31 I went to haber as well. WORST decision of my life. I was headed for a second surgery before he even started. I personally believe he does it so you can pay for another "Touch up surgery". He did a 1200 graft FUT and did not follow what he said. His consultation blowed and now, I am gonna wait for the 6 month mark before I take legal action. I understand when you sign the contract that he can do as he pleases, but, you cant LIE to your patient. Had I known that he was going to alter the plan, I would have NEVER went with him as my surgeon. On top of that, he doesn't know how to dense pack grafts in. I got quoted 3k grafts from blake bloxham, Dr. Nadimi quoted me 1800 and another clinic quoted me 2000. He was the only surgeon that did 1200 and by the time I realized that was not enough, it was too late. People say hes an "Ethical" surgeon? He isn't if he doesn't refund your money and mine as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazersEdge Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 (edited) I’m going to be honest, that is not a good hair transplant. Zero density in the grafts placed. Your was great hair prior to the surgery and your case should have been a lay up for a skilled surgeon. I’m sorry OP Edited May 31 by RazersEdge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member ZaynSzn Posted August 6 Regular Member Share Posted August 6 Any update please @Vaz430 . I am currently about ot hit 7 months and have zero results lol. Literally 0 density and no hair growing... I don't know what's happening but it seems everyone who goes to Haber has the same result. The people who have any "Results" are hairs that have no density at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regular Member Vaz430 Posted 2 hours ago Author Regular Member Share Posted 2 hours ago On 8/6/2024 at 4:26 PM, ZaynSzn said: Any update please @Vaz430 . I am currently about ot hit 7 months and have zero results lol. Literally 0 density and no hair growing... I don't know what's happening but it seems everyone who goes to Haber has the same result. The people who have any "Results" are hairs that have no density at all. It's exactly as it was in the pics. It did not get better. I have an appointment with him for next month to go over it, but he's already said by email he would only "possibly" offee some touch up but that he doesn't do refunds. But with these results I don't know if I can trust him doing anything more, especially if there's more people like you saying you got nothing. So I'll try to push to get some money back. He shouldn't be a recommended doctor here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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